We did some really stupid things in the early years of this century when we decided that waterboarding "suspected terrorists" was something we just had to do because what if there really was an existential threat, and blah blah blah?
I won't go into the details, other than to affirm what's already well-known. ie: You don't get any reliable information from your victims - they just tell you what they think you want to hear. So you end up with torture for the sake of torture.
Enter MAGA.
You can read Adam Serwer's piece in The Atlantic (from Oct 3rd, 2018), but it's behind a paywall. So here's Hawk with a YouTube reading:
We are MAGA
Cruelty
Immiseration
&
Death
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