Showing posts with label MAGA. Show all posts
Showing posts with label MAGA. Show all posts

Dec 15, 2025

Failing Maga

Two things we should never accept being in the same sentence:
  1. Trump
  2. Course correct
That doesn't mean he won't bluster about it. He's very good at pretending.

"I've decided to talk about affordability again because you idiots are finally ready to start maybe understanding the sheer brilliance of my very smart ability to do the weave in real time, and to do it with actual real world things like prices and shit. So there ya go ... just by talking about it for a few days, I've solved the problem, which wasn't really a problem - you're just too stupid to see it properly - the way I do ......... "

I think the guy is not long for the world. They've got him tinkering with his ballroom plans, dressing up the golf courses around DC, fartin' around at the Kennedy Center, and touring with his "rallies".

IMO, he's not running the show. My guess is that Susie Wiles is in charge, and that she and Russ Vought are the actual power. Everything else is false fronts and window dressing.




MAGA leaders warn Trump the base is checking out. Will he listen?

Trump’s advisers say he is preparing to hold near-weekly rallies to spend more time with the base, but has faced criticism from within MAGA in the meantime.


As Donald Trump ate his crab cake lunch inside the White House last month, conservative pollster Mark Mitchell tried to explain that there was a disconnect between what the administration seemed to be focused on, and what Trump’s passionate base of supporters want to see.

“Sir, you got shot at the Butler rally,” Mitchell said, invoking the “really strong optics” of Trump raising his fist in defiance after the attempted assassination in July 2024.

“You said, ‘Fight, fight, fight.’ But nobody ever clarified what that means,” Mitchell continued. “And right now, you’re fight-fight-fighting Marjorie Taylor Greene, and not actually fight-fight-fighting for Americans.”

The head pollster at Rasmussen Reports warned Trump that many of his supporters believe he hasn’t “drained the swamp” in Washington, and suggested the president refocus with a plan to embrace “pragmatic economic populism.”

“To the extent to which we were talking about the economic populism message, he wasn’t as interested as I would have hoped,” Mitchell said, adding that it was a “long-ranging conversation.”

Mitchell’s critique echoes a growing chorus of faithful MAGA supporters who have begun raising concerns over what they see as Trump’s second-term shortcomings. In recent weeks, pockets of the president’s base — well-known for its unwavering dedication to Trump and his MAGA agenda — have accused the president of focusing too much on foreign affairs, failing to address the cost of living issues he pledged to fix, aligning himself too closely with billionaires and tech moguls, and resisting the release of more investigative files on the deceased sexual predator Jeffrey Epstein.

Across the conservative spectrum, a steady drumbeat of commentators have warned that Trump’s coalition is weakened, and the party is headed for defeat in November’s midterms elections. There are concerns that the base won’t show up over frustrations that Trump hasn’t pursued the MAGA agenda aggressively enough. And others worry economic concerns could threaten his standing with the independent voters key in next year’s midterms.

Trump’s top advisers have taken note of the criticism from within MAGA, and see it as part of the “cyclical” feedback the administration will receive throughout his term, as one senior White House official put it. Trump’s staff have planned for him to begin holding near-weekly rallies to tout his accomplishments after spending little time on the stump this year, two officials told The Washington Post, speaking on the condition of anonymity to detail internal conversations. But on his first stop of that effort, at a casino in Pennsylvania last week, Trump again mocked the word “affordability” and downplayed concerns about rising costs and inflation before acknowledging, “I can’t say affordability is a hoax because I agree the prices were too high.”

His advisers anticipate complaints from Trump’s base could even become “louder” as the midterms approach, but will subside as more of his policies take effect. Eventually, an adviser quipped, the cycle will restart with a new set of criticisms.

Chief among the recent critics has been Greene (R-Georgia), whose complaints led to Trump disavowing her last month and her subsequent decision to resign from Congress.

“I’m an early indicator — I’m like a bellwether,” said Greene, who stood by Trump during his political exile after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, and has prided herself on being closely attuned to Trump’s base. “I say it, and then within four to six months, everybody’s saying the same thing.”

In an interview with The Washington Post, Greene said most of Trump’s longtime supporters still want to see him succeed, but “the base is jaded.” They know what they elected him to do, Greene said, and “they’re aware he’s not doing it.”

‘Driving 80 miles an hour at a brick wall’

Public polling has shown mixed signals about how much Trump’s support has slipped among Republicans. He maintains support from the vast majority of the party, though recent polling shows he has dipped below the GOP’s usual 90-percent approval mark. But Trump’s approval overall has lagged in recent weeks. It reached its worst with voters in late November and has ticked up slightly since, though it remains lower than at this point in his first term. An Economist/YouGov poll conducted this month found that 41 percent of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing, and 55 percent disapprove, a net improvement of five percentage points from the same poll a week earlier.

That apparent softness has coincided with some Republicans emboldened to push back against aspects of the Trump agenda, including last week, when GOP state senators in Indiana blocked a White House-led effort to redraw the state’s congressional maps. And on Thursday, 20 Republicans in Congress joined Democrats in another rebuke, supporting a bill that would overturn Trump’s executive order that limited union rights for federal workers.

What remains to be seen is whether that brewing dissatisfaction will grow, or if Trump can more aggressively focus on issues that quiet the discontent. Trump said Tuesday that his remaining three years in office amount to an “eternity” in “Trump time” to carry out his agenda.

Still, the chorus of supporters willing to speak out has become louder.

Mitchell was invited to the White House by Vice President JD Vance, who follows him on X and has communicated with Mitchell about polling in recent months. Before lunch with Trump, Mitchell met with Vance, White House chief of staff Susie Wiles and Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Mitchell is not part of the president’s political operation, but Trump’s advisers were interested in hearing his outside perspective, a White House official told The Post.

Mitchell said Trump listened to his concerns and asked questions, but eventually pivoted to one of his favorite conversation topics: golf. He gushed about two of his golf partners, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-South Carolina) and Fox News host Bret Baier, both of whom are the subject of MAGA-faction ire. Trump also bragged about how much money he had raised during a golf fundraiser for Graham the weekend before, a day after he declared he was rescinding his support for Greene.

Conservative pollster Mark Mitchell says President Trump was more focused on golf than on policy at a White House meeting. (Demetrius Freeman/The Washington Post)
In an interview, Mitchell suggested that it would have been better for the administration to acknowledge early on that repairing the economy would take significant changes and would not occur overnight.

“The very first thing they shouldn’t have done is lower gas prices one dollar and then say, ‘The Golden Age is here,’ ” he said.

Greene also believes Trump is missing an opportunity to connect with his base on affordability. People “understand that it takes time to stabilize the economy,” Greene said, but they take issue with Trump’s claims that concerns about affordability are part of a “Democrat hoax.”

“No, it’s not, and the health care situation is serious. It’s dire, and Republicans are only just now taking it serious,” Greene said, referring to expiring health care subsidies that will cause insurance prices to surge for Americans enrolled in Affordable Care Act plans. “This is a country driving 80 miles an hour at a brick wall on Jan. 1,” when they expire, Greene said.

‘Punchy tweets, cool video edits … no follow through’

Savanah Hernandez, a conservative commentator who serves as a Turning Point USA contributor, described the second Trump term so far as “underwhelming,” while crediting Trump with making positive, lasting changes to the conservative movement.

She was among the influencers the White House assembled for an “Antifa Roundtable” with Trump in October to discuss how to stop a movement of far-left activists who have at times incited violence during protests. But on that and a host of other issues Trump’s base cares about — including the administration’s goal to deport more than 1 million illegal immigrants this year, which it is not expected to reach; accountability for what they believe were government agencies being “weaponized against” conservatives; and vows to make life more affordable — Hernandez said he has fallen short.

“All we’ve really seen is punchy tweets, cool video edits, but really no follow through on any of the promises,” she said of the messaging coming from the White House.

“And if he listened to his base and he was connected to us, even just through social media, you would see that the average person is still struggling to buy groceries, that the housing crisis is still on the mind of everybody, that inflation is still a really big issue, and when Americans see billions of dollars going overseas to any country, it really feels like a betrayal when we’re struggling here at home,” Hernandez said.

Two senior White House officials said Trump on nearly a daily basis is shown a range of feedback from MAGA commentators, including criticism about his performance. In a statement, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt called Trump the “proud founder and undisputed leader” of MAGA, “the greatest political movement in American history.”

“President Trump is delivering on his core campaign promises across the board, keeping his word to the nearly 80 million patriots who elected him in a landslide, and fighting every day to make America greater than ever before,” she said.

Other MAGA-aligned voices downplayed the extent that critical voices within the movement are a warning sign. Jack Posobiec, a longtime activist and conservative media figure, described Trump’s performance as “light-years beyond” his first term.

“You will always have this sliver of people — it’s a very online group of people, a very active group of people, who would say they want more, they want more, they want more,” Posobiec said in an interview. “And I get that.”

Isabel Brown, another conservative podcaster, said the complaints from within MAGA are “a signal of a healthy conservative debate.”

Populist voices urge Trump to course correct

In Georgia, 36-year-old Jessie Meadows, a Trump voter who describes herself as “MAGA,” grew frustrated this year as prices remained high and the president responded dismissively to the push to release more files on Epstein. Her disappointment hardened as Trump attacked Greene and Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Kentucky), who also pushed for the files’ release. Trump’s online posts touting favorable polls and success bringing down inflation seemed like his own version of “fake news,” Meadows said.

She voted for Democratic candidates in November’s Public Service Commission elections in Georgia that flipped the seats from the GOP, and said that going forward, she will back candidates she considers “America First,” regardless of party.

“If I had known what Trump was going to turn into now, I would have stayed home,” Meadows said.

Many supporters like her have been turned off seeing what was once a full calendar of rallies in Middle America replaced with opulent events with business leaders, deal-signings with billionaires and travel to other continents. While meeting with Trump, Mitchell told the president his base of supporters wanted to see him “smash the oligarchy, not be the oligarchy.”

“Building billionaire-funded ballrooms and jet-setting around the world and trillion-dollar investment deals looks a lot like oligarchy stuff,” Mitchell told The Post.

Despite acknowledging Trump’s departures from his base on issues like foreign and tech policy, some top populist voices in his movement insist the president is course-correcting to win back support ahead of the midterms.

Trump “is pivoting into a much harder populist nationalist stance — on deportations, drug cartels, Third World fraud, tariffs,” said Stephen K. Bannon, his former adviser turned influential talk show host and operative.

“It’s only harder from here to November 2026,” Bannon, who has been outspoken against efforts by wealthy tech executives to influence Trump’s policies, told The Post. “Broligarchs didn’t sign up for the ‘wetwork’ of modern politics. They will be the first off the bus.”

MAGA influencers have cringed at some of Trump’s comments they view as out of touch with his base, especially his assertion on Fox News that the U.S. needs foreign workers because it does not have enough “talented people.” Not long after, Trump acknowledged that his base wasn’t happy with his decision to welcome foreign tech workers to the country, but said his poll numbers would instead go up with “smart people.”

Raheem Kassam, a British right-wing influencer living in Washington, who is editor of the conservative National Pulse, said his phone lit up with complaints when Trump made the poll comment.

“I’m just saying, listen to the people that elected you, because right now, apart from the deportation stuff, you’re not really connecting with them,” Kassam said.

In response to a request for comment from the White House, in addition to Leavitt, Vance provided The Post with a statement touting a reduction in the number of illegal immigrants in the country, Trump’s work with pharmaceutical companies to lower drug prices for some Americans, among other accomplishments.

“Is there more work to do? Of course there is,” Vance said. “And no one is more committed to doing it than the President of the United States and his team.”

Other Trump supporters said that while not everything has panned out as they hoped, they remained confident in the president.

“He is not a king,” said Jerry Ramsey, 81, from Marietta, Georgia. He can’t just say, ‘You gotta cut the price of a hamburger.’ Within another year, I think things will be rocking on pretty good.”

Dec 6, 2025

Think Outloud

Operative Concept:
MAGA voters are willing to go down with the ship as long as they're convinced someone they don't like is going to drown faster and harder.

People keep telling me not to take it out on the MAGA voters, but I'm not hearing a good explanation for how these people continue to buy into the bullshit when better information and - you know, factual reality - are both in their faces every fucking day.

Year-To-Date, AI accounts for 40% of GDP growth, and 80% of the stock market rise.




Expertise is not Elitism
Education is not Brainwashing
Warnings are not Fear Tactics

Nov 21, 2025

Professor Pagel's Rundown


Instead of getting your Underoos all knotted up, maybe you could just tell us you don't issue illegal orders.

This looks a lot like more evidence that these jerks are spoilin' for a fight, and they intend to do everything they can think of to provoke a violent reaction.

Nov 13, 2025

History Explains

Holy fuck - it's been right there in plain sight the whole time. These "Alpha MAGA" boys are closeted submissives!?

No wonder they've been totally absorbed into Daddy Trump's cult.

A huge Thank You to this darling girl - she's made another piece of the puzzle fall into place for me.


Oct 22, 2025

Overheard


MAGA Bros are the guys
who're convinced
that the waitress
is totally into them

Oct 20, 2025

That Weird Video

Trump is telling you what he's doing to you, MAGA - you stupid fucks.

It's a fairly simple extension of LBJ's  "If you can convince the worst white man that he's better than the best black man, he'll empty his pockets for you."

The worst of the MAGA deplorables believe Trump is fucking over the liberals more than he's fucking them over, so they're good with it.



Sep 28, 2025

They Don't Know

... because they don't want to know.

So along the same lines, it's not likely they'll make any real change in the way they think because they don't really think they were wrong about their core prejudices. They'll just wait for the next guy who makes them feel comfortable about their racism, misogyny, and xenophobia.

The good news is that a lot of them will probably spend a few cycles staying home.


Sep 9, 2025

Hey, MAGA

... when do you think you might start getting tired of being played for suckers all the fuckin' time?



U.S. employers added 911,000 fewer jobs than first reported, new BLS data shows

The change from April 2024 to March 2025 was the biggest revision on record. President Donald Trump fired the BLS commissioner last month over an earlier updated report.


The U.S. labor market was far weaker during much of 2024 and early 2025 than data initially showed, a new government report indicated Tuesday — injecting more uncertainty into the economy and fueling a raging debate over the figures that analysts use to understand it.

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In the largest preliminary revision to jobs data on record, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said employers had created 911,000 fewer positions from April 2024 to March 2025 than previously reported. That’s less than half as many as the agency had initially indicated. The data will be revised again and finalized early next year. Economists say that report could be less negative.

But the revision adds more evidence that the economy was already slowing even before President Donald Trump’s sweeping new tariffs and immigration policies squeezed costs for many businesses.

And it landed just a month after Trump fired the BLS commissioner, Erika McEntarfer, over weak jobs data, accusing her without evidence of overseeing government figures that were “rigged” for political purposes, including to help Democrats in the presidential election that Trump won.

The White House said the new report showed that the BLS is “broken” and that the economy was suffering under President Joe Biden.

“This makes it very clear that President Trump inherited a much worse economy by the Biden administration than ever reported,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters Tuesday. “And it also proves that the Federal Reserve is holding our monetary policy far too restrictive. Interest rates are too high. The Fed needs to cut the rates because of the mess that we inherited from the Biden administration.”

Labor Secretary Lori Chavez-DeRemer said in a separate statement that the American people had “even more reason to doubt the integrity of [BLS] data” and condemned the agency’s leaders, who she said had “failed to improve their practices during the Biden administration.”

Many economists and policymakers across the political spectrum stress that there is no reason to question the quality of the data.

Forecasters said they had expected a large revision this year due in part to slowing business growth, shifting immigration levels, declining response rates to government surveys and an apparent downward shift in the broader economy.

“These revisions don’t really change my perspective about the labor market, which was already reasonably pessimistic,” said Guy Berger, director of economic research at the Burning Glass Institute. “We knew the labor market was cooling over this period. A lot of other indicators came down. And in the process of that happening, we added less jobs.”

The three major stock indexes sank Tuesday morning on news of the massive downward revisions. But they rallied by midday, and all closed up slightly, as investors look ahead to rate cuts widely expected at next week’s Federal Reserve meeting.

The new annual revisions provide a more accurate snapshot of the labor market before new economic forces began to take hold — including higher tariffs and stronger immigration enforcement from the Trump administration.

Those forces have lately weighed on the labor market, which could be heading for a downturn. Monthly jobs data published last week revealed a rising unemployment rate and weaker-than-expected job creation of just 22,000 new positions in August. Even more concerning: The data showed the labor market shed jobs in June, the first such losses since the coronavirus pandemic.

The Trump administration shrugged off last week’s report as temporary, saying it expects a resurgence of new jobs and advanced manufacturing as a result of the president’s trade and immigration policies.

Most of the revisions announced Tuesday reflect the labor market under Biden. The report does not change estimates of job gains since March.

The closely watched monthly jobs reports are based on surveys of about 121,000 businesses and government agencies — a small share of the millions of U.S. employers. So the figures become more accurate when they are later calibrated with data from state unemployment offices. When the economy is rapidly growing or shrinking — as it did during the pandemic, or as it can at the start of a recession — large changes can result, because it is harder for surveys to capture how many businesses are opening or shutting down.

The preliminary revisions announced this week bring the average monthly pace of job gains during the year ending in March to just over 70,000, down from 147,000. Tuesday’s report does not indicate when the revisions took place over the 12-month period; that information will be released when the data is finalized early next year.

The annual revisions removed about 0.6 percent of all U.S. employment, the largest percentage fix since 2009.

The changes affected many sectors but especially leisure and hospitality. The report downgraded job gains in that industry, which includes hotels and restaurants, by 176,000 positions. Retail and wholesale trade also took a hit. And the information sector, which includes media, tech and telecoms, lost the largest share of jobs, about 67,000 positions, or 2.3 percent of its total employment.

Some economists argue that the labor market is still solid. The unemployment rate remains relatively low, at 4.3 percent, as do layoffs. Lower levels of immigration could mean that fewer new jobs are needed to support the population, compared with recent years, to keep the unemployment rate stable.

Last year, the preliminary revisions to jobs data drew an uproar. BLS reported that the economy created 818,000 fewer jobs in the year ending in March 2024, which at the time was the biggest fix to federal jobs data in 15 years. Trump jumped on the revisions to accuse Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris and Biden of “fraudulently manipulating job statistics” for political purposes. The final revisions published early this year ended up showing a smaller change, a downgrade of roughly 598,000 fewer jobs.

Economist Michael Strain of the right-of-center American Enterprise Institute said that he believes this week’s news will “unfortunately contribute to the narrative that there’s something fishy going on at BLS. It’s possible that we’ll see an even more aggressive response from the president.”

He added: “I think there is not a shred of evidence to believe that there’s any political bias in the data and there’s not a shred of evidence to believe the data are being manipulated in any way for any reason. In addition, I think there’s lots of scope to improve the data, and that’s something that I think would require money.”

Since firing McEntarfer in early August, Trump has nominated BLS critic and Heritage Foundation chief economist E.J. Antoni to lead the agency. Antoni is facing scrutiny from policymakers and economists for his pro-MAGA partisanship, relative lack of experience and what critics have called a misunderstanding of economic data, which could threaten his confirmation hearing in the coming weeks. Antoni has said he is interested in improving the accuracy of BLS data, and the White House has said that Trump tapped Antoni to solve those problems.

Erica Groshen, who led the BLS under President Barack Obama, said the large revisions announced this week also reflected lower participation in government surveys. Only about 35 percent of employers agreed to participate in voluntary jobs surveys, according to data from April, down from 74 percent a decade ago.

Berger, of the Burning Glass Institute, said he has been giving less credence to monthly job creation data in recent years, which has been highly distorted by recent shifts in labor supply, including the surge and subsequent crackdown in immigration.

Instead, Berger and many analysts and policymakers have been paying closer attention to the unemployment rate, hiring and layoff levels, and employment ratios, which have revealed periods of weakness over the past year. For example, the unemployment rate climbed last summer, contributing to the Federal Reserve’s decision to lower interest rates in September 2024.

“If your perspective has been ‘Wow, these job numbers are good, so the labor market is strong,’ you probably should have changed your mind on that a long time ago,” Berger said.

Jul 27, 2025

Because Of Course

To answer Tom's question:
If Republicans even acknowledge anything like this, it gets "the wrong people" to the voting booth.



Reported as MAGA Republican, but unconfirmed:



Jul 25, 2025

Jul 16, 2025

Today's Belle

The monster is on the loose, rampaging towards the village.

But we'll see. Reports of MAGA's demise are grossly exaggerated and way premature.


Jul 10, 2025

Today's Anti-MAGA

Some are already too far gone, and they're never coming back.

Most aren't paying very close attention - they just know their friends and family are into it, so they kinda go with the flow.

But right now, a lot of them are starting to think about it, and they're wondering about what it's costing them to stay with him.

It's not a movement, it's a dependency.


@jayneconverse3 6/27/25 They’re not following Trump because of what he does. They’re following him because of how he makes them feel. Understanding it is the first step in breaking the spell. #cultpsychology #Authoritarianism #PoliticalPsychology #TrumpSupporters #fyp #CultOfPersonality ♬ original sound - Jayne

Jul 9, 2025

WTF, MAGA?

Couple things:
  1. Since there's no Epstein client list, there's no reason for Ghislaine Maxwell to stay in prison, right?
  2. Can somebody explain why MAGA is suddenly OK with pantsuits?




So anyhoo -



MAGA Turns on Trump’s Attorney General for Closing the Case on Epstein

Pam Bondi once said she had Epstein’s client list on her desk, but now it turns out that she didn’t and there never was one.


Allies of Donald Trump have turned on Attorney General Pam Bondi following the Justice Department’s announcement in a Monday memo that there was no Jeffrey Epstein “client list” and no evidence to charge other individuals in connection with the case. And while it’s unclear if Epstein-watchers would have been satisfied by anything less than a televised perp walk of several dozen influential figures from the Democratic Party, or, like, footage of George Soros sneaking into Epstein’s jail cell, it’s probably true that Bondi didn’t do herself many favors by…heavily suggesting, on more than one occasion, that serious dirt would be forthcoming.

As The Wall Street Journal notes, Bondi previously promised she would release a “truckload” of documents from the FBI’s investigation into Epstein, and once “implied that she had a list of Epstein’s clients sitting on her desk waiting for her review.” Thus, it did not go over well when her department wrote a joint memo with the FBI stating that it found “no credible evidence” that the convicted sex offender “blackmailed prominent individuals” and no “evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties.” And by “did not go over well,” we mean that Trumpworld figures are now calling for Bondi’s firing. “Please join me in calling for Blondi to RESIGN!” Laura Loomer wrote on X. “How many more times is this woman going to get away with Fing everything up before she is FIRED?” Other right-wing personalities, including Glenn Beck, Benny Johnson, and Jack Posobiec, were similarly incensed.

Commenting on Bondi’s past remarks re: the Epstein case, Peter Keisler, who served as acting AG under George W. Bush, told the Journal: “It is challenging if you get into the habit of saying whatever seems politically convenient at the moment. At least occasionally, it will come back to bite you. There is a broader value in having credibility with courts and with other institutions that she does squander this way.” In fairness to Bondi, she is not the only Trump administration official who previously suggested that there was more to the Epstein story than the government was letting on. Current FBI director Kash Patel and his deputy director, Dan Bongino, embraced Epstein-related conspiracy theories until they didn’t, and during a 2020 interview, Trump himself spoke of Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell, saying: “Her friend or boyfriend was either killed or committed suicide in jail.”

Jun 29, 2025

Arguing With MAGA


Normal Person:
Hey look - Trump dropped another turd.

MAGA:
That's not a turd - it a delicious cheeseburger.

Normal Person:
No, I'm pretty sure it's a piece of shit.

MAGA:
It's a cheeseburger, you stupid socialist cuck! Here - I'll prove it!

(They record themselves eating the turd, and post it on every social media account they have, proclaiming "I TOTALLY OWNED A LIBTARD TODAY!" - which gets 350,000 likes and reposts)

And that's where we are now.